October 18, 2005
Wellness minutes for
Taken by
Attending
Blaine and Bonnie Reed,
Started at
We heard a payer by Bonnie and said the pledge of allegiance. The mission statement was read by everyone out loud.
Ray Fox was commended for his work as well as the children from the school. The hope is for a hard surface to go down maybe next summer. Also more equipment might be able to be acquired. Much of this is just in the talking stage but tentative talks are taking place with individuals and organizations able to help. The ice machine used to finish up the ice for games needs new blades and this is a $900 investment but it looks like the school can help with that and the blades will be the kind that can be re-sharpened. This can be done in
Vickie Moyle spoke next on the subject of the new policy for use of the senior center. She had been asked to attend by the group to go over this new policy as there seemed to be misunderstandings or lack of agreement on what is expected and why. The discussion that followed is difficult to quote or even sum up as it was emotionally charged and confusing, though on the surface so straight forward.
Vickie pointed out this new policy is not her policy but a directive from the board she works for. The new policy is basically that every user of the building is expected to help take care of it. A $25 user fee for each use is expected, to cover the various building costs. Likewise the building is expected to be left the way it was found- with trash picked up floor swept and any food issues dealt with by the group- in terms of who would prepare and clean up after. The seniors are willing to take their turn along with everyone else but not be solely responsible. There had been issues in the past of various groups (not necessarily Wellness) expecting the seniors to provide food cook and clean. Vickie stated that her first objective is to take care of the seniors, which is her job, and secondary would be use of the building for other activities. The list of what is expected is posted on the wall for all to read and a contract was agreed to and signed by Traci –on behalf of WIN agreeing to the new policy. The money paid ahead got used up and Vickie had sent a notice asking how we wished to be billed in the future. Endil- who is on the senior board- verified this is a board policy not a personal policy. Endil pointed out the dire straights the senior program finds itself in. Vickie pointed out that if the money is a burden then in-kind trade of services is an option—things like mowing, shoveling, donations of coffee, printer paper, services of any kind. Vickie pointed out that a church group meets every Sunday with no problems and are very happy with the policy and willingly pays and does a good clean up job. So what’s the problem here?
Things had been quite different in the past. It was pointed out the senior’s were members of the Wellness group, and what they had contributed in the past was a place to meet. In return the various entities represented by the Wellness coalition had done various kind of work on the center and helped out in a variety of ways. Mostly there had been good feeling and no one had felt used and there seemed to be no issues. Miles expressed the idea that all groups in Nenana are hurting financially, these are hard times all around. Do we all want to start charging each other for everything now? The old way was really not working too well anymore even if it had worked for many years. Endil understands that part of the issue with the Wellness group is we have no budget, no money, no officers, and are a loose collection of the entire community with no one in charge. Don wondered why we could not just all pay, and it might come to something like $2 a person per meeting. Bonnie pointed out that we could not get $2 per person to cover food cost in the past. There had maybe been an assumption of the Wellness group that Mental Health had money in its budget to cover such costs and would cover this new policy fee, so it had been off the rest of the group’s minds when Traci stepped forward to have Mental Health pay. Certainly Vickie believes Mental Health has the money, so it should not be a money issue here. A policy was read, agreed to, signed and considered a done deal according to Vickie. Someone suggested maybe there was a misunderstanding of the contract. After all, things had been so loose in the past that signing something might have been seen as a formality to be loosely worked out one way or the other, not strictly adhered to. The senior Board and Vickie’s request seems on the surface straight forward and easy to understand. The only question being how will we pay, and if we have an issue we need to bring it to the board and or we should not have signed an agreement. But having singed we need to live up to it.
Traci spoke up, very upset, saying this is becoming a personal issue with her and she is being slammed. There had been some question (alluded to at several meetings) as to if the problem was personal between Vickie and Traci. (If so a solution could be to have others deal with the issue. It is not who might be right or wrong but how can this be resolved). Is the problem about money and budget? Miles pointed out this had been true for the Chamber of Commerce when the new policy was presented. The $25 fee represents a year’s membership in the Chamber. We have maybe 5 people getting together for an hour. For the amount asked for we can go to a restaurant and each have a meal. But there were no hard feelings about it. The Chamber did not want to get something for nothing and if we can’t afford to meet at the Senior’s we do not want to be a burden. Vickie had been very nice and understanding and pointed out we could trade. I wished we had more money or more time to offer but could not see it as realistic at this time.
Traci had said at the previous meeting she had no real problem with just donating that amount of money yearly to the seniors and not call it a fee of any kind. Traci asked about the city doing ‘in kind’ trades and feels Mental Health is in the same situation and has helped out over the years in various ways. How can the policy be different for one group then another? Is WIN then being singled out as a target- being given blame where it is not justified? Vickie herself had named various WIN attendees who had volunteered tremendous time in working on the building – so why is that not ‘in kind trade’?
Don agreed he thought Traci was being slammed and even if the facts spoken are correct there could be a nicer way to present them that was not hurtful. But Vickie feels that it was she who had been slammed when the Wellness group talked about her without her being present, at our last meeting, and the report she got back from someone present was that she had been slammed- and so feels hurt angry and defensive. This is further exasperated by the fact that Vickie has repeatedly asked for WIN minutes to be emailed so she can stay informed, and had repeatedly given her email address and never got the minutes. It seemed like a personal issue to her, when anyone else requesting to be emailed minutes seems to have got them. (There were other perceived personal slights.) Traci had previously addressed these slights but felt she should not have to defend herself publicly- and stated there was not a problem and she had been totally professional and considerate in all her dealings. Traci was so upset by the direction of the meetings proceedings she could not discuss it further, was against paying the money and walked out.. What seems like it should be a fairly minor issue requiring 5 minutes of discussion has escalated into who knows what. There was no resolution to the problem. This sums up the basics of the issue as discussed. Mostly at this meeting it was Vickie and the Senior’s perspective being explained, as she had been invited to speak. There is a great deal ‘behind the scenes’ strong feelings and this discussion, as stated, is like a tip of an iceberg but probably will suffice for a minutes report. It was good to at least get some of it out in the open, enough that we can fill in the blanks, and this should help the group make a good decision.
Kim gave a report on the Wellness Fair. She was trying to find out what it would take to have one. She talked to someone named Phyllis, who is in charge of health fairs and found out a 2 day training needs to be attended in
Bud asked for a report from all the entities represented. Miles said a scheduled Chamber meet for this Thursday the 20th had to be postponed and should be help the following Thursday the 27th.
Don said there were no poster entries for the poster contest but thinks it had to do with not enough advertising and
